jetguy777
07-29 12:16 PM
This is Ron Gotcher's view. I am not advocating his position just posting for the benefit of IV members who may have not read his post regarding forward movement in EB2-India.
Some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.
More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.
Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.
The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.
Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.
The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.
The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.
This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.
This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.
Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.
I hope this clarifies matters.
Some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.
More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.
Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.
The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.
Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.
The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.
The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.
This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.
This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.
Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.
I hope this clarifies matters.
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qualified_trash
10-23 03:23 PM
Thanks eb3India.
How does the current company obtain a pre-approved labor? Does it buy the pre-app labour? Or is it SOLELY because someone in the company left (whose labor was approved)?
I was reading a lot about the controversy about why it should be stopped etc so i was wondering if someone had any documentation on why it was started in the first place and how it works
Thanks
a company that has had the LC approved can reuse it for someone else. that is all!!
How does the current company obtain a pre-approved labor? Does it buy the pre-app labour? Or is it SOLELY because someone in the company left (whose labor was approved)?
I was reading a lot about the controversy about why it should be stopped etc so i was wondering if someone had any documentation on why it was started in the first place and how it works
Thanks
a company that has had the LC approved can reuse it for someone else. that is all!!
richana
07-30 05:32 PM
Travind I am not close to the family anymore I made the dude so uncomfortable he stopped calling me. Here are some avoidance techniques, but you need to be ballsy to pull them of and never exceed the limits of decency and you must have a sense of timing and humor to do these. I have used these techniques myself for avoidance
1) Stare at his wife or sister and constantly compliment their looks, cooking, chai etc
2) Make lots of sticky notes with their quotes in the meetings and stick it on their walls
3)Break your pencil or pen at the meeting and loudly say cuss words like "shit that is good"
4) Itch nervously when they approach you in any location they will leave you thinking you have some skin disease.
5) Cough without closing your mouth directly in front of their face
6) Wear ghetto clothes when you go to the usual locations they avoid you like the plague (sorry guys who wear kurta with jeans and leather chappals you are the most obvious target)
7) Borrow cd's, dvd's etc and never return them or their calls they are bound to be nice since even in the worst case they are still trying to sell to you.
There are more things to do but i'm guessing some other people will post their experiences , just one word of caution do not extend your torture because these people are human beings who have been proselytized by their diamonds etc that they dont realize and don't worry they will not learn from you.
1) Stare at his wife or sister and constantly compliment their looks, cooking, chai etc
2) Make lots of sticky notes with their quotes in the meetings and stick it on their walls
3)Break your pencil or pen at the meeting and loudly say cuss words like "shit that is good"
4) Itch nervously when they approach you in any location they will leave you thinking you have some skin disease.
5) Cough without closing your mouth directly in front of their face
6) Wear ghetto clothes when you go to the usual locations they avoid you like the plague (sorry guys who wear kurta with jeans and leather chappals you are the most obvious target)
7) Borrow cd's, dvd's etc and never return them or their calls they are bound to be nice since even in the worst case they are still trying to sell to you.
There are more things to do but i'm guessing some other people will post their experiences , just one word of caution do not extend your torture because these people are human beings who have been proselytized by their diamonds etc that they dont realize and don't worry they will not learn from you.
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09-04 01:56 PM
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Mr.Nair tell me is it Gulf or Gelf. Do you still wear lunky in office or smoke peedi...enda peedi malabar pedi, enda CM EK nayar...he he :D
If its GOD own country...what are you doing there. Are you renting it mr.Nair
by the way how is omana kutty.
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sumitpendharkar
06-27 03:38 PM
I just spoke with a paralegal at Fragomen and she assured even if USCIS issues a bulletin mid-month and retrogresses the dates, they wont be effective until Aug 1. So one could file AOS until July 31. This seems to contradict earlier response to visves's question.
psaxena
05-29 09:04 PM
I know this guy who was a junior to me and reporting to me in India. I resigned and moved with another company and later moved to US. After an year I joined the same company which I was working in India. Now this guy, just because having some relation with the VP made some arrangement and came to US on L1 and applied under EB1 and got his GC in 1.5 years. More over he was no good as manager and a pathetic programmer. Also he did no good to the company actually lost a few clients and when he got his ass on fire he moved to other company and started working as a pathetic programmer with his GC
When I saw this I was so irritated and now thinking what the FUCK this Grassely is doing for this.I think neither we doing anything. He just wants votes by creating sensation among the white rednecks for the next election.
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When some of us raised the issue of project managers from Indian IT companies applying under EB1 and using up those visas which would trickle over to EB2 and EB3, we were scoffed at. Some even questioned as to why these people cannot apply under "Multi-national executive" category, as they are "Multi-national" managers.
These guys misrepresent the number of people reporting to them (same managers in the same portfolio uses the same number of people to show in the application as reporting to them. This is true "reuse"), also "reuse" the portfolio value (how can 3-4 managers from the same client account be responsible for x million dollar business) and crooked company attorneys make up a stellar resume and case to file for them. The attorney pay comes from the employee's pocket.
Otherwise how would you explain the sudden rise in EB1 filings and a quota which never used to be over in previous years suddenly has cut-off dates.
If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:
When I saw this I was so irritated and now thinking what the FUCK this Grassely is doing for this.I think neither we doing anything. He just wants votes by creating sensation among the white rednecks for the next election.
AAAHHHHH... nuts nuts nuts.. 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1... hooo.. :) controlling my anger..
When some of us raised the issue of project managers from Indian IT companies applying under EB1 and using up those visas which would trickle over to EB2 and EB3, we were scoffed at. Some even questioned as to why these people cannot apply under "Multi-national executive" category, as they are "Multi-national" managers.
These guys misrepresent the number of people reporting to them (same managers in the same portfolio uses the same number of people to show in the application as reporting to them. This is true "reuse"), also "reuse" the portfolio value (how can 3-4 managers from the same client account be responsible for x million dollar business) and crooked company attorneys make up a stellar resume and case to file for them. The attorney pay comes from the employee's pocket.
Otherwise how would you explain the sudden rise in EB1 filings and a quota which never used to be over in previous years suddenly has cut-off dates.
If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:
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abhijitp
07-03 05:04 PM
As far as past IV threads, here is one and I am sure Pappu knows it as he has posted lots of links there:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=694&page=8
A list of contacts for Public radio/TV such as NPR and PBS:
http://www.npr.org/contact/
Here is another... and this makes me think we should look for media contacts at other pro as well as anti-immigration websites.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
Here is one more:
http://www.webcom.com/~leavitt/medialist.html
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=694&page=8
A list of contacts for Public radio/TV such as NPR and PBS:
http://www.npr.org/contact/
Here is another... and this makes me think we should look for media contacts at other pro as well as anti-immigration websites.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
Here is one more:
http://www.webcom.com/~leavitt/medialist.html
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stemcell
06-01 03:11 PM
Buddy , people do win lawsuits , against the governments.
I am not saying sue them , and get greencards .
Lawsuit, may be possible againstcountry quota.
Lawsuit, may be possible to recapture the wasted immigrant visas. The Law states the limit , for a year. It doesnt say that it expires on the last day of the year.If USCIS couldnt use that in a year , it should use it the next year.
Paying medicare/ss taxes, and not getting them, is also wrong, These are not Income Taxes, we are paying for some services, which we would never get.(Just like unemployment insurance)
You may have a point there...
I am not saying sue them , and get greencards .
Lawsuit, may be possible againstcountry quota.
Lawsuit, may be possible to recapture the wasted immigrant visas. The Law states the limit , for a year. It doesnt say that it expires on the last day of the year.If USCIS couldnt use that in a year , it should use it the next year.
Paying medicare/ss taxes, and not getting them, is also wrong, These are not Income Taxes, we are paying for some services, which we would never get.(Just like unemployment insurance)
You may have a point there...
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anai
06-28 03:38 PM
Based on this, I have again (yes, again) emailed by immigration lawyer and sent him the AILA's URL (although I cant see it coz I am not member of AILA).
IF AILA reports that they stopped accepting new 485 petitions for EB3-other, then it is pretty freaking scary and that means that what my lawyer told me "I cant happen, bla bla bla..." is really not 100% accurate. If it happened in June, it can happen in July. This is now REALLLLY SCARY, coz my lawyer has plans for July-end for filing.
Ever since the dates got current, it has been more stressful than the time when dates were retrogressed and almost makes me miss the retrogression days when I didnt have to depend on the lawyers for my career.
So, what did your lawyer say? Would sure love to know, once you hear back.
IF AILA reports that they stopped accepting new 485 petitions for EB3-other, then it is pretty freaking scary and that means that what my lawyer told me "I cant happen, bla bla bla..." is really not 100% accurate. If it happened in June, it can happen in July. This is now REALLLLY SCARY, coz my lawyer has plans for July-end for filing.
Ever since the dates got current, it has been more stressful than the time when dates were retrogressed and almost makes me miss the retrogression days when I didnt have to depend on the lawyers for my career.
So, what did your lawyer say? Would sure love to know, once you hear back.
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hiralal
06-01 07:28 PM
ss benefits when we retire is such a long way away ..who knows what the situation will be that time ..US just needs a law change and ss benefits can be denied at that time ,,,so it makes more sense to discuss and act on recapture rather than waste time on something that will occur is 2025 or later ..just a thought
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msp1976
02-18 12:33 PM
I value Mr Unitednations posts as he provides us with the opposing point of view. That is absolutely critical. It would help us strategize and plan.
This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)
I agree that his arguments are valuable...
And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....
That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....
This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)
I agree that his arguments are valuable...
And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....
That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....
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chanduv23
09-03 09:51 AM
It is sad to lose a leader who got elected democratically.
It was also sad that few people who could support SRK (does that related to our immigration issue :confused:) but comfortably felt that missing YSR is not as important as SRK.
Why do u feel sad if people support SRK? And why do u compare SRK to YSR?
Don't demonize people just because just because they voice their opinions.
It was also sad that few people who could support SRK (does that related to our immigration issue :confused:) but comfortably felt that missing YSR is not as important as SRK.
Why do u feel sad if people support SRK? And why do u compare SRK to YSR?
Don't demonize people just because just because they voice their opinions.
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485Mbe4001
06-11 07:09 PM
"Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. "
i am not interested in giving red or blue dots but i do hope your citizenship application gets stuck in a processing delay, you too will then realize the implication of your so called Darwinian flush :rolleyes: As they say...when it happens to others its a recession, when it happens to you it turns into a depression...good luck..
I hope your post did not imply that the ones who got GC's were the 'brightest and the best'.
i am not interested in giving red or blue dots but i do hope your citizenship application gets stuck in a processing delay, you too will then realize the implication of your so called Darwinian flush :rolleyes: As they say...when it happens to others its a recession, when it happens to you it turns into a depression...good luck..
I hope your post did not imply that the ones who got GC's were the 'brightest and the best'.
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alisa
07-04 10:57 AM
I am sick and tired of cookie cutter responses from lawmakers staff. They have a standard template, that starts off with how concerned they are that the immigration system is broken, and their concern for American companies and workers and H-1b.
Enough of that freaking rubbish....
Lets send them letters, and specifically ask them
a) Do you condemn USCIS/DOS behavior, or do you commend it?
b) Do you sympathise with the plight of the employment based greencard applicants or not?
Finally, say that their response will be posted on online public forums so that it can be shared with other employment based greencard applicants.
Enough of that freaking rubbish....
Lets send them letters, and specifically ask them
a) Do you condemn USCIS/DOS behavior, or do you commend it?
b) Do you sympathise with the plight of the employment based greencard applicants or not?
Finally, say that their response will be posted on online public forums so that it can be shared with other employment based greencard applicants.
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Openarms
08-17 03:01 PM
Common man is common man everywhere. Star worship is something that exists everywhere. be it sportsmen or movie stars - these people win hearts of people and thats what matters which is most important.
Now you are blaming people for worshipping him. Thats how things are.
Do you know how crazy soccer fans are in some countries?
Thats how things are my friend.
Like you said star worship is every where but how about slums in Bombay, Delhi, Hyderabad??? they are not every where???? how about un educated farmers that they do not know beyond their farms and villages... Common man be realistic with human touch....
Now you are blaming people for worshipping him. Thats how things are.
Do you know how crazy soccer fans are in some countries?
Thats how things are my friend.
Like you said star worship is every where but how about slums in Bombay, Delhi, Hyderabad??? they are not every where???? how about un educated farmers that they do not know beyond their farms and villages... Common man be realistic with human touch....
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Ramba
07-17 12:24 PM
Yes, horizontal spill-over gives preference to EB Category. But the vertical spillover didnt promote diversity. It just ensured that the applicant with the oldest PD was allotted the first available spill-over visa number irrespective of his EB category or country of origin. This just ensured that someone doesnt wait too long. as you know, most of the vertical spillovers were consumed by EB3-India and china. Then, how can it promote diversity.
to make it simple, here is my understanding
Vertical spill over --> PD precedes EB category and Country of Origin
Horizontal spill over --> EB Category precedes PD and country of origin.
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gcisadawg
Before AC21 law, both India and China gets only 3000 EB2 visas (7% of 40000). The remaining unused visas in EB2 goes to EB3 worldwide catagory, NOT TO EB3-India. After AC21 law, all the 40,000 EB2 visas are made available to EB2 catagory, irrespective of country of orgin. In either case EB3-I will get same 3000 visas. There is no difference for EB3-I, before and now. EB3-India will always get only 3000 visas per year till EB3-ROW become current.
to make it simple, here is my understanding
Vertical spill over --> PD precedes EB category and Country of Origin
Horizontal spill over --> EB Category precedes PD and country of origin.
Thanks,
gcisadawg
Before AC21 law, both India and China gets only 3000 EB2 visas (7% of 40000). The remaining unused visas in EB2 goes to EB3 worldwide catagory, NOT TO EB3-India. After AC21 law, all the 40,000 EB2 visas are made available to EB2 catagory, irrespective of country of orgin. In either case EB3-I will get same 3000 visas. There is no difference for EB3-I, before and now. EB3-India will always get only 3000 visas per year till EB3-ROW become current.
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breddy2000
09-04 01:44 PM
Breddy2000 and dealsnet,
I hope you guys don’t owe anything to YSR!.
If you love YSR, that’s your business. As much as you love, facts are facts and YSR being CM for 5 years is the biggest loss to AP and people of AP.
Also, it’s a curse that India and Indians are paying to have had congress rule India for 60 years.
"_TrueFacts". You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
The fact of the matter is you are misusing your IV ADMIN Previledges to prove your point....
And I must say I have lost all faith in you being a Senior Member of IV.
I don't damn care about what you think....It's more about your behaviour that astonished me....You have been reported to "Admin".
If they do not care much about it and losing you is a loss to IV, then be it.....But facts remain that you have compromised on someone's identity in public forum with your previledges.
And I very well know that your other handle is "CHANDUV23". I don't care if I'm banned from IV.
I hope you guys don’t owe anything to YSR!.
If you love YSR, that’s your business. As much as you love, facts are facts and YSR being CM for 5 years is the biggest loss to AP and people of AP.
Also, it’s a curse that India and Indians are paying to have had congress rule India for 60 years.
"_TrueFacts". You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
The fact of the matter is you are misusing your IV ADMIN Previledges to prove your point....
And I must say I have lost all faith in you being a Senior Member of IV.
I don't damn care about what you think....It's more about your behaviour that astonished me....You have been reported to "Admin".
If they do not care much about it and losing you is a loss to IV, then be it.....But facts remain that you have compromised on someone's identity in public forum with your previledges.
And I very well know that your other handle is "CHANDUV23". I don't care if I'm banned from IV.
snathan
05-01 11:29 PM
friends lets not fight and over estimate ourselves ..we cannot do anything to solve or highlight our own issues ..then how can we do anything about something happening far away !!!
that being said ..both sides are to be blamed ..SL and Tamil leaders in SL.
SL because they treated tamils as second class citizens even though they were born in SL ..and tamil leaders because they did not accept peace offers / try to give up violence ..
and don't compare this to kashmir ..Kashmiris (except the pandits) are not second class ..they have super / very high class status .
as for congress party (India) ..it is the biggest villian ..why did it send army to SL ..Rajiv Gandhi should have sent his relatives first
We are not fighting here for the LTTE or SL. We are not happy to see how our incumbant Indian govt is. This is the same fate we/our generation going to face in the future whatever may be the reason.
Somewhere in the world when one jew is getting killed how the ISREAL govt is reacting. They never mind to go after those guys. But we are unfortunate not to have such govt.
Well..I wont post anything in this thread anymore.
that being said ..both sides are to be blamed ..SL and Tamil leaders in SL.
SL because they treated tamils as second class citizens even though they were born in SL ..and tamil leaders because they did not accept peace offers / try to give up violence ..
and don't compare this to kashmir ..Kashmiris (except the pandits) are not second class ..they have super / very high class status .
as for congress party (India) ..it is the biggest villian ..why did it send army to SL ..Rajiv Gandhi should have sent his relatives first
We are not fighting here for the LTTE or SL. We are not happy to see how our incumbant Indian govt is. This is the same fate we/our generation going to face in the future whatever may be the reason.
Somewhere in the world when one jew is getting killed how the ISREAL govt is reacting. They never mind to go after those guys. But we are unfortunate not to have such govt.
Well..I wont post anything in this thread anymore.
_TrueFacts
07-08 09:34 PM
Time to celebrate the divine punishment. I haven't seen Ramayana, but I have seen Ravana in the form of YSR.
People of AP should enjoy the moment.
People of AP should enjoy the moment.