
logiclife
01-15 11:55 PM
Immigration Voice is starting a feature for recurring contributions per month. You can sign up for $20 or $50 or $100 contributions per month and a secure paypal transaction will deduct this amount each month and contribute to Immigration Voice.
The question is, why should you contribute and what are the stakes? We have seen no reform from congress the entire year of 2006, so what is the point now? These are the questions, right? Is it even legal? What is the oversight of funds?
I will try to answer all these questions below and if you have more, please feel free to ask over the phone or on this thread.
1. Is it legal to contribute or participate?
Yes. Absolutely. We have seen that reason as a number one fundraising killer. Everything done
by immigration voice is absolutely legal. See more here: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.ph...43&Itemi d=48 (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=48)
2. Is the money well spent?
Most of our expenses account for lobbying fees. This is a non-profit and
no one here is out to make money. Everyone here running this is a retrogression/backlog victim. See the bios of
members and founders here: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.ph...57&Itemi d=49 (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=49)
If you still have questions, call us at 850-391-4966. We would rather have you call us and question us rather than not call and not contribute. We are not here to run a scam. This organization is registered in New Jersey, and the non-profit tax status is pending with IRS.
3. Is it worth it?
Well, do you want a greencard in this life-time? Yes? Then its worth every penny of your contribution. Otherwise you are wasting your time here on this website.
4. Why cant big businesses, corporations contribute here or lobby on their own?
Well, do you want to wait for someone to help you out? What if that does not happen and legal immigration reform is dropped again? Do you want to risk it? If you do then you are wasting your time reading this.
We are trying to get corporate sponsorship for this effort but cannot completely rely on them.
5. Why lobbying?
We cannot cannot cannot in a million years do this without lobbying.
We have retained the help of professional top firm in Washington for our advocacy efforts in Washington, DC. The firm has a strong reputation and value-added experience to help us achieve our goals of solving the backlog and retrogression problems.
Working with professional advocacy group(lobbying firm) is only one way we are advancing Immigration Voice’s goals. While we are advocating for reform on these important issues in Washington, D.C., we need your help now more than ever – and you can help us in your city.
6. Why me?
Well, if you are here checking this website everyday, you are just about as worried about your greencard as the next guy who contributed. If you think that "Others" will contribute and reach goals, that is very unlikely to happen. If it does, and you see this org succeed without your contribution, then congrats to you. But then, for every member or visitor of this website who read forums everyday, wishes good luck, prays for success of Immigration Voice and DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE $$ thinking that "One non-contributor will be barely missed" we have a potential contribution not coming. And that is a majority as of now. Out of 8000 plus registered members and hundreds of more visitors, less than 2000 have contributed.
7. What's to lose?
Well, make a $50 contribution/month and that's one month's cable. Make it a $100 and that is 3 dinners outside with your partner. Make that $200 and that is one long weekend out the window. Is that all too much to lose compared to potential failure of immigration voice in raising funds?
Think about all consequences and make up your mind.
That being said let me sincerely thank people who have
already contributed and also mention that a handful of contributors have made over
$1,000 contributions or more so far in cash on top of volunteering time and effort.
Let's begin contributing...Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25)to sign up now.
Advantages of Monthly recurring contributions for the Organization:
With recurring contributions, Immigration Voice can plan and make a budget for the advocacy efforts in advance before the actual resources are needed.
Payments are secured thru paypal. You can stop the recurring payments at any time in future by simply logging in into your paypal account and stopping it. Once you signup, all the details of your recurring payment would be sent to you in email by paypal so that you can save it for your records.
Payments are processed by withdrawal of funds from your chosen credit/debit card or paypal account once each month.
Please sign up and strengthen our hands. Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25)to sign up now.
The goal is to have a total of 2000 contributors for recurring contributions in the next 1 month. Trust me, this is not difficult given the numbers we have even today. 8400 members, $ 200,000 raised so far. We can do much much much better than that.
However, do the math. Some people have contributed more than 500. That
means that with 200,000 coming from 1800 members, some have contributed
nothing. Well, I understand the fears and apprehensions people have with new
organizations asking for money and I am going to address all those
questions and answer them one by one. So that the only reasons left after
that for not contributing would be excuses. (unless you have another question...in which case, call us at our number 850-391-4966)
Thanks.
The question is, why should you contribute and what are the stakes? We have seen no reform from congress the entire year of 2006, so what is the point now? These are the questions, right? Is it even legal? What is the oversight of funds?
I will try to answer all these questions below and if you have more, please feel free to ask over the phone or on this thread.
1. Is it legal to contribute or participate?
Yes. Absolutely. We have seen that reason as a number one fundraising killer. Everything done
by immigration voice is absolutely legal. See more here: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.ph...43&Itemi d=48 (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=48)
2. Is the money well spent?
Most of our expenses account for lobbying fees. This is a non-profit and
no one here is out to make money. Everyone here running this is a retrogression/backlog victim. See the bios of
members and founders here: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.ph...57&Itemi d=49 (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=49)
If you still have questions, call us at 850-391-4966. We would rather have you call us and question us rather than not call and not contribute. We are not here to run a scam. This organization is registered in New Jersey, and the non-profit tax status is pending with IRS.
3. Is it worth it?
Well, do you want a greencard in this life-time? Yes? Then its worth every penny of your contribution. Otherwise you are wasting your time here on this website.
4. Why cant big businesses, corporations contribute here or lobby on their own?
Well, do you want to wait for someone to help you out? What if that does not happen and legal immigration reform is dropped again? Do you want to risk it? If you do then you are wasting your time reading this.
We are trying to get corporate sponsorship for this effort but cannot completely rely on them.
5. Why lobbying?
We cannot cannot cannot in a million years do this without lobbying.
We have retained the help of professional top firm in Washington for our advocacy efforts in Washington, DC. The firm has a strong reputation and value-added experience to help us achieve our goals of solving the backlog and retrogression problems.
Working with professional advocacy group(lobbying firm) is only one way we are advancing Immigration Voice’s goals. While we are advocating for reform on these important issues in Washington, D.C., we need your help now more than ever – and you can help us in your city.
6. Why me?
Well, if you are here checking this website everyday, you are just about as worried about your greencard as the next guy who contributed. If you think that "Others" will contribute and reach goals, that is very unlikely to happen. If it does, and you see this org succeed without your contribution, then congrats to you. But then, for every member or visitor of this website who read forums everyday, wishes good luck, prays for success of Immigration Voice and DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE $$ thinking that "One non-contributor will be barely missed" we have a potential contribution not coming. And that is a majority as of now. Out of 8000 plus registered members and hundreds of more visitors, less than 2000 have contributed.
7. What's to lose?
Well, make a $50 contribution/month and that's one month's cable. Make it a $100 and that is 3 dinners outside with your partner. Make that $200 and that is one long weekend out the window. Is that all too much to lose compared to potential failure of immigration voice in raising funds?
Think about all consequences and make up your mind.
That being said let me sincerely thank people who have
already contributed and also mention that a handful of contributors have made over
$1,000 contributions or more so far in cash on top of volunteering time and effort.
Let's begin contributing...Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25)to sign up now.
Advantages of Monthly recurring contributions for the Organization:
With recurring contributions, Immigration Voice can plan and make a budget for the advocacy efforts in advance before the actual resources are needed.
Payments are secured thru paypal. You can stop the recurring payments at any time in future by simply logging in into your paypal account and stopping it. Once you signup, all the details of your recurring payment would be sent to you in email by paypal so that you can save it for your records.
Payments are processed by withdrawal of funds from your chosen credit/debit card or paypal account once each month.
Please sign up and strengthen our hands. Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25)to sign up now.
The goal is to have a total of 2000 contributors for recurring contributions in the next 1 month. Trust me, this is not difficult given the numbers we have even today. 8400 members, $ 200,000 raised so far. We can do much much much better than that.
However, do the math. Some people have contributed more than 500. That
means that with 200,000 coming from 1800 members, some have contributed
nothing. Well, I understand the fears and apprehensions people have with new
organizations asking for money and I am going to address all those
questions and answer them one by one. So that the only reasons left after
that for not contributing would be excuses. (unless you have another question...in which case, call us at our number 850-391-4966)
Thanks.
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logiclife
03-09 12:09 AM
Many thanks Abha for your contributions.
Would you also like to join the membership drive of immigration voice. We are organizing a chain recruitment drive (since a couple of days) to help get more members and have 10,000 members.
Please email me at jay@immigrationvoice.org so that I can send you brochure/doc for volunteering. Its really not a big commitment, except 45 minutes per day for a few days.
Here is more: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=305
--Jay.
Would you also like to join the membership drive of immigration voice. We are organizing a chain recruitment drive (since a couple of days) to help get more members and have 10,000 members.
Please email me at jay@immigrationvoice.org so that I can send you brochure/doc for volunteering. Its really not a big commitment, except 45 minutes per day for a few days.
Here is more: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=305
--Jay.

Dhundhun
01-19 11:22 AM
Very interesting. When we applied for 485/EAD/AP, our lawyer specifically asked for color passport copies of the first few pages. I went ahead and made copies of all pages. Am I in trouble?
Lawyer may be more knowledgable, but here is pointer to User Manual.
http://www.brother-usa.com/ModelDocuments/Consumer/Users%20Manual/UM_MFC_9840CDW_EN_1034.PDF
Read page number 106 (Legal limitations for copying).
After reading manaul and knowing that kinko prohibits such copying, there is some fact in it. It may happen that color copies of documents in some countries are not allowed, but for some other countries, they are allowed. I am an engineer and I don't have more information (pointer to sections of legal books).
Since I make copies at home, I follow user manual information. If my Lawyer asks such thing, I would show him the information and ask for clerification. If he overides, by give me clauses and sections, I would't hesitate for him. Laws keeps on changing.
This talks about passport: http://www.ehow.com/how_2038717_plan-any-type-trip.html
This talks about drivers licence in NC: http://ncsu.edu/student_affairs/legal_services/faqs/alcohol-laws.php
There is some discussion here http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=129660
Lawyer may be more knowledgable, but here is pointer to User Manual.
http://www.brother-usa.com/ModelDocuments/Consumer/Users%20Manual/UM_MFC_9840CDW_EN_1034.PDF
Read page number 106 (Legal limitations for copying).
After reading manaul and knowing that kinko prohibits such copying, there is some fact in it. It may happen that color copies of documents in some countries are not allowed, but for some other countries, they are allowed. I am an engineer and I don't have more information (pointer to sections of legal books).
Since I make copies at home, I follow user manual information. If my Lawyer asks such thing, I would show him the information and ask for clerification. If he overides, by give me clauses and sections, I would't hesitate for him. Laws keeps on changing.
This talks about passport: http://www.ehow.com/how_2038717_plan-any-type-trip.html
This talks about drivers licence in NC: http://ncsu.edu/student_affairs/legal_services/faqs/alcohol-laws.php
There is some discussion here http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=129660
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acecupid
07-13 11:57 AM
I suggest this thread be closed and we stop giving murthy any more publicity than she actually deserves. :mad:
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imconfused
07-09 04:16 PM
I am yet to see any legal basis in the case which states that DoS has to give notice of x days before changing the visa bulletin. All it says that they have "policy" of visa bulletin good for a month. Such policies, unless backed by legal basis, are not enforceable.
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Not a legal advice.
legally speakn, there is a commonly term used "bad faith".. this is where DOS/USCIS falls in right now. Read the document, the y did not break any law, what they did was in "Bad Faith" ,. Cant make it clearer than this...
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Not a legal advice.
legally speakn, there is a commonly term used "bad faith".. this is where DOS/USCIS falls in right now. Read the document, the y did not break any law, what they did was in "Bad Faith" ,. Cant make it clearer than this...

mirage
02-03 03:54 PM
Guys we need to see the staff of 4 people. Congresswoman Zoe Logfen, Senator John Cornyn , Senator Arlen Specter and Senator Gillibrand. I have spoken to the offices of 2 of these Lawmakers, and they have always shown the understanding of this issue. as you may know recently elected NY Senator Gillibrand mentioned about 'some country people waiting for 8 years', this tells her understanding of the situation.
I have 4 people sent me emails, It would be good if we can make a group of about 20 people...It'll also help if people of these 4 states come forward...
also please suggest on conferencing facilitie..
Thanks
I have 4 people sent me emails, It would be good if we can make a group of about 20 people...It'll also help if people of these 4 states come forward...
also please suggest on conferencing facilitie..
Thanks
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adurthy
10-16 01:56 PM
I support flower campaign , when do u propose , let do atleast a week before thanks giving.
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optimystic
03-18 08:35 PM
Urgh.. Here come the red squares...Why do I even bother posting comments!
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optimystic
03-18 08:35 PM
Urgh.. Here come the red squares...Why do I even bother posting comments!
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alisa
01-27 08:16 PM
My simplistic model breaks down with this data.
With these numbers, the ROW backlog for 2002 should have cleared by now, but it hasn't. The Indian backlog should clear in a few years.
I guess, there is a reason why people don't model these things. The results are no better than pulling things outta thin air if there isn't sufficient data.......
Maybe USCIS needs computers more than we need visa numbers......
If there are any estimates on the number of applicants in the different years, we could try some math on it.....I had assumed 160K applicants for ROW in 2002, and from the numbers that andy provided, that backlog should have cleared in 2004.
Unless we are missing something really really big, things should start moving forward in a year or two. (Especially after USCIS learns about the amazing new invention called a 'computer')
As my lawyer says, in two to ten years, the PDs will be current.....
alisa
i hope that country caps are removed
i also hope it's not at your expense :-)
i don't see why people think these things are mutually exclusive
we all want the best to happen- for ourselves- and as much as we can help it
for everyone else too!!
great work on putting the data together, hopefully we can develop some concise sound bites to present to affected people and to lawmakers.
i do suggest that the final summary should show 3 examples
China EB2 and EB3
India EB2 and EB3
ROW EB3
this way everyone affected sees something about themselves
With these numbers, the ROW backlog for 2002 should have cleared by now, but it hasn't. The Indian backlog should clear in a few years.
I guess, there is a reason why people don't model these things. The results are no better than pulling things outta thin air if there isn't sufficient data.......
Maybe USCIS needs computers more than we need visa numbers......
If there are any estimates on the number of applicants in the different years, we could try some math on it.....I had assumed 160K applicants for ROW in 2002, and from the numbers that andy provided, that backlog should have cleared in 2004.
Unless we are missing something really really big, things should start moving forward in a year or two. (Especially after USCIS learns about the amazing new invention called a 'computer')
As my lawyer says, in two to ten years, the PDs will be current.....
alisa
i hope that country caps are removed
i also hope it's not at your expense :-)
i don't see why people think these things are mutually exclusive
we all want the best to happen- for ourselves- and as much as we can help it
for everyone else too!!
great work on putting the data together, hopefully we can develop some concise sound bites to present to affected people and to lawmakers.
i do suggest that the final summary should show 3 examples
China EB2 and EB3
India EB2 and EB3
ROW EB3
this way everyone affected sees something about themselves
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tooclose
07-12 06:59 PM
That may not be true. I had read somewhere (in this forum) that DOS sets up cut-off dates as 01, 08, 14, and 22, and 01 includes from 1st to 7th, 08 includes 8th to 13th, and so on and so forth.
Come August 1st, who knows, (strange are the ways USCIS works) his file may be the first one to be picked up and approved before those of March 05 guys, some of whom are still waiting, like Pitha etal.
You deserve a happy hour if thats true, since my PD falls within that window :)
Come August 1st, who knows, (strange are the ways USCIS works) his file may be the first one to be picked up and approved before those of March 05 guys, some of whom are still waiting, like Pitha etal.
You deserve a happy hour if thats true, since my PD falls within that window :)
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gcformeornot
02-03 09:02 PM
Guru's please check if this employment letter is enough for the above mentioned RFE....
Dear Sir/Madam
Re: Employment of Mr. John Doe
This is to confirm that Mr. John Doe is currently employed in our organization as a Senior Software Engineer at the annual salary of $ x per year.
Mr. Doe�s compensation package includes medical, dental benefits, sick leave and paid holidays.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
Sincerely yours,
adding these additional things salary offered in LC is met....... this will not work. Per my attorney salary offered in LC needs to be without any such things.......
Dear Sir/Madam
Re: Employment of Mr. John Doe
This is to confirm that Mr. John Doe is currently employed in our organization as a Senior Software Engineer at the annual salary of $ x per year.
Mr. Doe�s compensation package includes medical, dental benefits, sick leave and paid holidays.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
Sincerely yours,
adding these additional things salary offered in LC is met....... this will not work. Per my attorney salary offered in LC needs to be without any such things.......
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srkamath
07-12 08:18 PM
i believe the argument that this sudden jump was made to help eb2 china is pure hogwash.........
Good point, i agree............
Good point, i agree............
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seahawks
10-26 09:58 PM
bump, action item, please notarize and mail. Please keep this thread active!
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imh1b
11-12 04:03 PM
Did you see that whoever is crying for spillover is EB2 India. or EB3 ROW. He has his priority date pretty close to cutoff dates in bulletin. So they think by doing spillover their greencard will come few months earlier. This is a selfish thinking. IV should not help such people. They do not care about us. They only care about getting their own greencard. I will oppose this campaign and send letters against this campiagn to whoever you are sending. This campiagn does no help to EB3 India. I am sure many EB2 ROW will oppose you and send letters against your letters. You are trying to delay EB2 ROW greencards by taking from their quota. Even Chinese will oppose you because there are too many Indians blocking the system for everyone.
IV should spend money for EB3 India rather then EB2 India who are already in advantage.
IV should spend money for EB3 India rather then EB2 India who are already in advantage.
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jonty_11
07-11 03:41 PM
Previously, the policy was that all worldwide numbers would fall down into worldwide third and then from there, fall across to the countries impacted by retrogression (i.e. India, China). The policy was recently clarified and today the unused numbers are allocated within the same preference classification.
Can you provide the source of this info? a link or something?
Can you provide the source of this info? a link or something?
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varshadas
12-01 10:50 PM
Lets schedule a conference call this Tuesday, that is, 12/05/2006 at Noon EDT. Let me know if everyone is OK with this time. Also, lets try to get more members on this state chapter. Meanwhile if people here can do some research on the people whom we want to meet up with.
Thanks,
Varsha
Thanks,
Varsha
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gclabor07
06-14 09:04 AM
Everyone should do it. It was easy.
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Hope_GC
07-16 08:02 PM
I agree with you..
I've so many hard working American friends... it really make me want to work harder to compete with them, but these bunch of cry babies at Numbers are scared of skilled workers, they don't want to upgrade their skills, they want to work 9-5 and get paid for their incompetencies.
I've so many hard working American friends... it really make me want to work harder to compete with them, but these bunch of cry babies at Numbers are scared of skilled workers, they don't want to upgrade their skills, they want to work 9-5 and get paid for their incompetencies.
brawn81
11-06 11:50 AM
Hi,
Can somebody paste the sample letter that needed to be sent because I cant open in office.
Thanks,
brawn.
Can somebody paste the sample letter that needed to be sent because I cant open in office.
Thanks,
brawn.
november
09-10 04:37 PM
http://www.competeamerica.org/CEO%20Sign%20on%20Letter-Senate-FINAL%202.pdf
http://www.competeamerica.org/CEO%20Sign%20on%20Letter-House-FINAL%202.pdf
Hope HR-5882 pass through Full House committee,House ,Senate , the whole 9 yards.
http://www.competeamerica.org/CEO%20Sign%20on%20Letter-House-FINAL%202.pdf
Hope HR-5882 pass through Full House committee,House ,Senate , the whole 9 yards.